Java - State of Denial

I've been participating in an interesting discussion on Tuple Spaces over on TSS

Actually the discussion was on JavaSpaces, but since Tuple Spaces is the "non-branded" name for the architectural pattern - we quickly moved on to Tuple Spaces. There were some useful posts by people knowledgeable in the "distributed" Java technology space - like Cameron Purdy of Tangosol, but the debate quickly deteriorated (IMO) into a discussion of what you should and should not do with a Tuple Space.

To me this seemed very odd, because Tuple Spaces as a concept has very few restrictions, in fact the API is very simple, just four verbs (read, write, notify and take). So why the big discussion about what you can and can't do? Then it dawned on me. Some of us were talking architecture, whilst others where still talking implementation. So what Cameron was perhaps saying was that the Java implementations of Tuple Spaces have various limitations. Given that Java and distribution is Cameron’s area of expertise, he could well be right.

Yet, I know of at least one other implementation, not in Java that isn’t limited in the way he describes. So why would someone with his level of expertise not know of other implementations too?

I think this is a symptom of something I've seen descend over the java community over the years. I think what has gone on with the Bush Administration over Iraq, in some ways resembles what has happened to the Java community:


The first similarity is having all the answers. The JCP was meant to be the answer to everything. By committee Java would flourish and evolve. All good ideas would emanate from the JCP, and we didn't need to look elsewhere - Baker/Hamilton, no thanks!


The second similarity is staying the course. What do you mean that AppServers and EJBs are dead and buried? We intend to stay the course despite the fact that no one is adopting EJB3.0.

The third is denial. Java is still cutting edge, we are leading the vanguard in technology innovation - we will win through!

The Java community has become somewhat inward looking and entrenched IMO. Much of the interesting ideas are coming from outside Java, but the Java community consumed in its own grandeur is blissfully unaware of the rest of the world.


The sad thing is, that even Microsoft is evolving. WPF and WPF/e will deliver on the promise of Applets, which Sun made years ago. In contrast the Java community has stagnated, stuck with a language designed in a hurry to power toasters. Nothing is wrong with that btw, we've all got to start somewhere, the problem is though, that through denial no one sees the need for change.

So C# 3.0 is adopting even more from functional languages, whilst Java's thinks about closures. Ruby comes along and shows what can be done with a dynamic message send, and the Java community, slays the messenger Bruce Tate. The last time I looked Bruce was hiding out on the IBM forums writing articles for people who where interested in "crossing borders" like he had.

So the experts in distributed data solutions in Java haven't heard of Croquet. I guess it is not of interest, even though the Croquet team lead is the guy that invented Objects in the first place!

I don't believe Java is going to go away any time soon, but unless this culture of denial changes I can see it suffering a long lingering death. That in itself is not necessarily a bad thing, times move on. The problem though is that a lot of programmers have identified themselves with "Java". So they are no longer just programmers, they are "Java" Programmers. I once responded to a post that was clearly antagonistic towards Ruby from someone who openly admitted that he had only "read about it". Given his ignorance, I was surprised at his antagonism. When I asked him why, he came out with all the usual static typing arguments, and he also mentioned that he would not go on to a Ruby forum and make comments on Ruby. I guess by implication, he meant that I should not comment on a Java forum because I was obviuosly a Ruby programmer. I guess it never crossed his mind that I may program in both!

I could imagine Rumsfield coming out with a stupid statement like that. So the Java community has become tribal and partisan - and even Microsoft is more open minded and outward looking knowadays (have you noticed that XAML looks a lot like Adobe Flex?).

I guess the final service Java can provide to the developer community is as a repository for developers with a closed mindset. People able to think for themselves can just leave, much like Bruce Tate did, and move on to more interesting things. And the "I've just put the latest JCP acronym on my CV" programmer can stay with Java safely out of everyone’s way!

Paul.